Ok fine. I give up. I am going to try Keto. Too many of you who I respect swear by it. And I've recently gotten heavy for unclear reasons. I need an emergency measure, and strict fasting erodes muscle. I"m not worried about the saturated fat. If you can't keep those levels below about 9% of energy, then you aren't getting the cardiovascular benefit of that "trick". Once you are eating more than that, the amount doesn't matter (it is a sharp S curve). A few months of "normal" saturated fat intake is in no way going to offset the benefit of the weight loss. I'm not worried about high protein intake. I expect to get 30% of my energy from my own body fat; I'm not replacing a 2500 kCal diet with 2500 kCal of meat... that would be mad. It is more like fasting augmented with some meat. I'm not going strictly carnavore, but pretty close. I will have salt, papper, tea, coffee, miso soup, kimchi, metamucil. I'm starting at 104.9 kg. Advice and support is welcome. https://image.nostr.build/d5f5693c9ba58f3ec40066126c4e0defaae4ee46bf1f521b502e1e00bb442404.jpg