Try this one, I had it work once. “If there was a trading strategy that just worked, why would anyone need your money or care to sell a platform to you? If you had a winning strategy that was making you million would you really start a group to tell everyone? Because the more you tell the less it works. They need your money because your money is what they are getting. Trading is bullshit every single time. You can *invest* your way to wealth, but you better know what you are investing in. But if someone has a “trading bot” or anything that can somehow predict that future and they want to charge you for it or join a private group. You are just getting scammed and they will wait until you have enough on the line to rug you.” And also on the “I don’t trust Reddit.” A random post on Reddit isn’t asking him for $10K dollars. It isn’t about trusting everything you read on Reddit, it’s about a common sense assessment of the risks and incentives. The guy trying to take your money has no reason to do anything but tell you anything that will get your deposit. The random Reddit post isn’t trying to get anything from you and doesn’t even know you.